Professor and historian Ted Widmer has multiple books to his name, including Young America: The Flowering of Democracy in New York City, Brown: The History of an Idea, and Martin Van Buren. His latest work is Lincoln on the Verge: Thirteen Days to Washington, which Douglas Brinkley calls “an impressively vivid and intimate portrait of Abraham Lincoln on his historic 1861 train journey from Illinois to Washington, DC.”

Widmer recently discussed his new book with author/attorney Talmage Boston. Listen to the podcast here. (And read Boston’s reflection on Lincoln on the Verge here.)